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::I'm playing devil's advocate here so to be fair, your rhetorical question could be seen as rude because it questions the intelligence, or lack thereof, of the reader. It's a smart remark that can be seen in two ways depending on the person reading it. I can see how SM64DS could have read the sentence in a mocking tone as apposed to a more playful one. --[[User:Torran|Torran]] 13:59, 13 March 2012 (CET)
 
::I'm playing devil's advocate here so to be fair, your rhetorical question could be seen as rude because it questions the intelligence, or lack thereof, of the reader. It's a smart remark that can be seen in two ways depending on the person reading it. I can see how SM64DS could have read the sentence in a mocking tone as apposed to a more playful one. --[[User:Torran|Torran]] 13:59, 13 March 2012 (CET)
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== Wrong Content ==
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There are some wrong statements in the article. The first paragraph has at least 2 bugs or bad written statements:
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* 9 and F are not the highest decimal/hex numbers, but they are the highest digits.
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* A byte has more than 100 different decimal values.
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Hex numbers are only an other representation of numbers. The advantage is, that 2 hex digits has the same value range as one byte and that an experience user can directly see, which bit are sets.
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Why not give a short introduction (I think, I have read here in the wiki some good and short intro in another article) and than linking to the details Wiki page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hexadecimal
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[[User:Hanno|Hanno]] 20:58, 13 March 2012 (CET)

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Hey SM64DS, do you know the difference between sentence and paragraph? -- Wiimm 20:44, 12 March 2012 (CET)

I have no idea if you are intending to rude with that question... If so, I am very disapointed in you. I don't even get that question... Both sentances and Paragraphs exist in in this guide. It is not done yet, I am busy right now. You can easily put them together into a Paragraph if you wish, however I always seem to write as if it were a post. If this bothers you, then fix it... With the 1% Chance that you decided to randomly ask me such and odd question, yes. A sentence is a sentence (It ends with a . ? or !, must be a complete sentence). Paragraphs are multiple sentences not separated by large spaces, they are separated on by short spaces and . ? or !. See? I just wrote a Paragraph, and you wrote a sentence... -- SuperMario64DS, 21:12, 12 March 2012 (CET)
I believe what Wiimm meant was this:
These are sentences:
Now, most of you reading this may already know most of this. However, it is recommended that you read all of this section, as it will help both you and your mind to understand how numbers with different bases work.
Decimal numbers are what you've probably learned about and known your whole life.
Decimal, is basicly a way of counting Numbers based on 10. If you hadn't noticed, Decimal numbers reset at every 10 Numbers. That is why we have numbers like 11, for example. All you are doing here is re-counting the basic 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9, except you add a number on the end.
To put it more simply, the only Numbers that exist in decimal are 0-9. Every time the last number (9) is reached, it has to start over.
However, it cannot constantly reset, so it must become larger. In order to do that, it must take the next unused number (1), and stick a 0 on the end because that is the first number.
If you are wondering why it skips to 1 for 10 instead of using 0, read this simple explanation:
This is a paragraph:
Now, most of you reading this may already know most of this. However, it is recommended that you read all of this section, as it will help both you and your mind to understand how numbers with different bases work. Decimal numbers are what you've probably learned about and known your whole life. Decimal, is basicly a way of counting Numbers based on 10. If you hadn't noticed, Decimal numbers reset at every 10 Numbers. That is why we have numbers like 11, for example. All you are doing here is re-counting the basic 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9, except you add a number on the end. To put it more simply, the only Numbers that exist in decimal are 0-9. Every time the last number (9) is reached, it has to start over. However, it cannot constantly reset, so it must become larger. In order to do that, it must take the next unused number (1), and stick a 0 on the end because that is the first number. If you are wondering why it skips to 1 for 10 instead of using 0, read this simple explanation:
See Creating a Minimap for examples of good tutorial writing style.
Here are my two cents: do not pull out the "rude much" card every time someone attempts to critique your work. After all, peer reviewing can be the best kind of advice you know. Also, writing style isn't something that you ask someone to simply "fix". It is something that you have to develop through trial and error. As a person whose first language is English, I am very disappointed in you. --Torran 02:04, 13 March 2012 (CET)
The only problem I had with what Wiimm said... It is rude. There is a major difference between being a Critique and being rude. Not to mention quite often people specificly on this Wiki often see an error, and only complain about it and not correct it themselves. Wiimm did not have to say that. As I've said multiple times, "That should have been communicated through PM". I don't see how that can be taken as decent judgement, whether it was sarcasm or ECT. If people would have been nice to me when I first arrived here, I wouldn't be so defensive about things like this. If Wiimm was being rude, then yes, I am disapointed in him. Out of most people I expect the most from him. I also stated if he was being rude. Please! Every page I make, it's talk page becomes some type of war zone! If you have nothing nice to say, don't say anything at all! If you have a problem with something I've done, PM Me! Everyone assumes that I am getting offensive over criticism, however the past two (And only two) cases were based on Bad Language, which had nothing to to with criticism at all, and then somebody always jumps in and says I am mistaking Criticism. I did also say if he was being rude... So I tried to answer the question in three different directions, because I was unsure what he was intending with that question. -- SuperMario64DS 03:15, 13 March 2012 (CET)
You call my single sentence "rude"? I thing it was a friendly (and a little be joking) kind to tell you some critics about you layout. And I won't edit your text as long your are working on it and give you a chance to to it by yourself. And it is my personal decision with medium I use to tell you.
I wrote a single sentence as hint and you wrote 2 much more aggressive paragraphs. Now tell me, what is more rude?
Wiimm 07:24, 13 March 2012 (CET)
I'm playing devil's advocate here so to be fair, your rhetorical question could be seen as rude because it questions the intelligence, or lack thereof, of the reader. It's a smart remark that can be seen in two ways depending on the person reading it. I can see how SM64DS could have read the sentence in a mocking tone as apposed to a more playful one. --Torran 13:59, 13 March 2012 (CET)

Wrong Content

There are some wrong statements in the article. The first paragraph has at least 2 bugs or bad written statements:

  • 9 and F are not the highest decimal/hex numbers, but they are the highest digits.
  • A byte has more than 100 different decimal values.

Hex numbers are only an other representation of numbers. The advantage is, that 2 hex digits has the same value range as one byte and that an experience user can directly see, which bit are sets.

Why not give a short introduction (I think, I have read here in the wiki some good and short intro in another article) and than linking to the details Wiki page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hexadecimal

Hanno 20:58, 13 March 2012 (CET)