Talk:Star Slope (Torran)
So you make privat tracks only for CTGP without official release? I cant understand. Thats not fear. Wiimm get fix tracks with bugs and released it for all. And the tracks comes to CTGP too later. I cant acept by my self. Sorry. --Snake (talk) 15:30, 17 February 2015 (UTC)
No CTGP?
Wasn't Torran's update going to be in CTGP v1.03.1000? --Dance4life628 (talk) 11:18, 22 May 2015 (UTC)Dance4life628
Track removal
Even though v1.2 has no download link for no reason, I think its page / sub page should still exist. I can understand that track pages are being deleted if a track has been announced and never finished and thus has no download link, but this track is in active use in CTGP. The correct step should be adding a download link to that version - either provided by the track author or forcefully provided by Chadderz and MrBean35000vr, not removing documentation of its existance. A track which is available in a public CT distribution should also have a public download. -- Leseratte (talk) 03:10, 16 October 2017 (UTC)
- If there wasn't an older version, this page would be removed, though, as Jungle Jamble was. —Atlas (talk) – CT/MK8 Wiki Admin 08:17, 16 October 2017 (UTC)
- That is not the point I am trying to make. The point is that this wiki, called "Custom Mario Kart Wiiki", has been created to document and collect custom tracks. Would you mind telling me where I can find the rule about "tracks without download get deleted"? I may have missed it, but the "Rules" page in the sidebar doesn't contain that rule. And even if this rule does exist and I have just missed it (which is possible), I bet that rule was intended for in-progress / cancelled tracks. Not for finished tracks like Star Slope or Jungle Jamble. Same as the "Content can be added to any distribution unless prohibited by the author" rule probably was intended to disallow beta / test versions in distributions in general, not to make distribution-exclusive tracks. Even though Jungle Jamble has no public download link for no reason, it has been released as a custom track in CTGP and therefore it should have its page in this wiki. The very first sentence of the rules state the intent of the wiki - to catalog user-made content for Mario Kart Wii. Both Star Slope and Jungle Jamble are user-created content and just because there is no download link - which is a completely different thing to discuss - doesn't mean these tracks shouldn't have a wiki page, in my opinion. -- Leseratte (talk) 08:33, 16 October 2017 (UTC)
- From what I was told from Maczkopeti, when he was an admin: you don't need to document explicitly an obvious rule, knowing that the Custom Mario Kart Wiiki offers content that is distributed publicly, which means any user can access to it and has the rights to look at the files to learn how it was made. This is just for the purpose of people who claims they made a track, give no download link, and publish a video that could have been stolen somehow (I know this is not the case, but this applies for everybody with no exception). As well as one of my battle stages got removed because it never got a download link (3DS Sherbet Rink), and as of many other pages who already got deleted by Maczkopeti and other previous administrators/moderators, there's no need to change this now, in 2017. If you still claim it's not documented, then we can make a page in Korean because in the rules it doesn't say pages must be in English. But that's not how it works. It's logical that you can't release content in the Wiiki the end user can't access to it directly (you can access to Star Slope and Jungle Jamble indirectly via CTGP).
- Furthermore, in the Published Works Policy, it says You are only allowed to post freely usable content on this wiki. Freely usable does not mean freely changeable. All posted content is to be freely accessible without password or registration on other internet platforms. That being said, if you publish a page about a track that is not accesible to a download link, you are not posting freely usable content, you are posting content for private use, which is not allowed.
- —Atlas (talk) – CT/MK8 Wiki Admin 09:44, 16 October 2017 (UTC)
About v1.2
In my opinion v1.2 should be noticed, because it exists and this Wiki is also a information source, but not only a download portal. -- Wiimm (talk) 20:25, 1 October 2019 (UTC)
- @Atlas hasn't this already been discussed in the past? While it is correct that every version should have a download link, it's not the correct solution to remove any hint about that version ever existing. Just because a version isn't on the wiki (which, by the way, has been created prior to that rule change) doesn't mean that we should deny the existance of that version. If you have a track and there are no proper download links for older versions, you wouldn't remove them from the history either, would you? This track does exist, it is in CTGP and it can be played. While it does violate the rule of "a track must have a download link", removing it from the track page is not the solution. As Wiimm already said, this wiki is a knowledge database about the game and its custom tracks, so what's the point in removing potentially useful information about a custom track? -- Leseratte (talk) 20:42, 1 October 2019 (UTC)
Download Website
The download for this track takes you to a pretty unsafe looking website, I had to do it 3 times before it actually worked KiwiPowerGreen (talk) 18:04, 8 February 2021 (UTC)
- Unfortunately, it's intentional. Torran has tried time and time again to remove this track, so Atlas set up a system that automatically re-uploads it if it gets shut down again. The website is 100% safe, and if you had to keep doing it it may have been removed again. Trainiax/SwampyGator (talk) 18:12, 8 February 2021 (UTC)