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Mediafire and copyright claims

As of today, Mediafire has been removing lots of custom content related to MKWii (and that seems to be the only Wii game affected). I've had a texture hack and a model hack removed, and plenty of custom tracks have vanished as well. I suggest trying a different site, maybe your own webserver if possible.

The group involved is Kapow Software.es (who claim to be related to Nintendo, but their own site doesn't list Nintendo as a partner, but instead lists Microsoft).
--Digital Monster, Guilmon35249vr 22:20, 15 October 2012 (UTC)

Volcanic Skyway 4 was also removed from Mediafire by the same company due to a copyright claim, and my account was immediately suspended. As such I am revoking the release of Volcanic Skyway 4 entirely, until I can use a patching system or include it in the next version of CTGP-R. I will not continue to upload to any more websites as I do not want to risk being sued or having my YouTube account suspended. If anybody would like to mirror the download, you may do so at your OWN risk. --BigOto 04:11, 20 October 2012 (UTC)
I'm willing to mirror any download needed, however I must point a few things out:
  • YouTube and MediaFire are not affiliated in any way (As far an action on one site effecting the other)
  • Many others have both uploaded these hacks & tied them to their YouTube accounts theoretically, and have not received suspension from YouTube.
  • The same company, "Kapow Software", was hired to delete all content/modifications (With the addition of un-official expansions) from of the game, The Sims 2. All YouTube videos of such modifications still exist, while the files are now hosted elsewhere.
  • Along with the list of deleted tracks, were deleted ISOs and Roms of both Mario Kart 7 & Mario Kart Wii. It should atleast be considered that their filter perhaps mistook Custom Tracks or in game data, seeing that dozens of downloads are still up like these: DS Waluigi Pinball, Cloud Carpet, 3DS Piranha Plant Slide, Codename: BIGBOX, Magma Island (And the list goes on)
  • BigOto's MediaFire account was suspended completely suspended, likewise most others who had multiple deleted files. The reason: The filter most like caught a certain file and thought it was an ISO. After then examining the the the account it found multiple files which shared similar data, which a stupid filter would flag as bits of the ISO thus leading to suspension.
  • Certain custom tracks were taken down for allegedly being a direct file from the game itself, which only brings the filter further to the conclusion that it had made mistake. Most likely the filer had searched for a long string of data. For example, it may have searched for the data from Mario Circuit. Since this filter was probably programmed to think that the ISO or files may have been split up, it would search for all objects in Mario Cicuit, which flagged the track Volcanic Skyway V4 for containing the objects "Castleballoon > Itembox > Castletree".
  • Wouldn't you think think that out of all tracks, Magma Island would have been deleted? Not only is it literally named "volcano_course.szs", but it is un compressed in a zip archive, and is simply Grumble Volcano with a re arranged KMP! (And new model, of course)
  • The email anyone received that they believe was "Directly from Nintendo" was not. Examine closer, Nintendo@Kapow.com, not Kapow@Nintendo.com (Although some people have claimed to receive some from "@NOA", which further strengthens the idea of a confused partnership). Just look, the system and/or the person who sent that email obviously doesn't understand how to edit models in BrawlBox, much less even play a custom track. Their filter flagged a track as a piece of the game, send email, done.
  • It is improbable that they directly searched any YouTube videos or the Wiki itself. All they would have had to do here is search "MediaFire" and suspend all.
  • Lastly, we do not know that Nintendo is directly involved. With MegaUpload's demise, most file sharing Websites have either shut down public sharing or have taken extra precautions to not go the same way. Ever considered that they perhaps have a list of un wanted files so they then contacted Nintendo to get their support? I hightly doubt only Mario kart was effected, as they most likely emailed you about the deleted files within the category your violation was in.
With the WiiU coming up, 1000s of other hacking communities existing, and millions of dollars to be made, why would Nintendo even give a care about us? Just on small hacking community in the large pool of Brawl-Zelda-Galaxy-64-DS hackers? No. I'm pretty sure that if Nintendo even cared we would have heard from them a lot sooner, and the CTWW would have been disabled by them not allowing external regional races. I recall an overreaction by me when the whole SOPA thing was pending, and this is no less. Obliviously FBI agents aren't going to pull up to your front door and take you away to prison for piracy. Itembox.brres is impossible to use really with a KCL, Model, & KMP, with the addition of a copy of Mario Kart Wii and a Wii. So what on earth could somebody use Itembox.brres without a Wii? "OOh, Distribute over the internet and make millions of dollars!" (No). Obviously we have not received any auto updates, patches, or anything else to prevent us from what we're doing now. Nintendo has moved on from the Wii, seeing that they're letting the hacking scene grow even larger and now that Wiis are no longer manufactured, with the addition of the 3DS, WiiU, and other possible future consoles. No other File sharing website has been effected, no other websites have been harmed. In comparison to murder or theft, distributing Itembox.brres or other related files within an archive full of your own creations that require the purchase of Nintendo products to operate legally is relatively small. It is indeed a law, but nothing Nintendo seems to care about anything that could potentially harm Nintendo because you can't re construct a whole ISO from several custom tracks. And if one choose to use these files with an illegal copy of Mario Kart Wii, then that's where the threatening problem is, --SuperMario64DS 19:32, 20 October 2012 (UTC)
My (Wiimms) Story:
My old track directory contains 52 tracks. Mediafire warns me about 5 tracks. I "dismiss"ed all and made immediately the complete track directory "private". All 52 tracks are still available. No more notice of Mediafire.
Today I have uploaded 61 tracks in the new patch file format. No reaction until now.
Wiimm 21:22, 20 October 2012 (UTC)
  • cool my mediafire ACCOUNT is closed Mkwjason 06:21, 21 October 2012 (UTC)mkwjason
My Mediafire account was suspended as well. None of my CT links work anymore. --Digital Monster, Guilmon35249vr 17:00, 6 February 2013 (UTC)
4TLPatis Story
Well, I (4TLPati) got problems now too. I just got an E-Mail from Mediafire and they deleted my patch files for the two ripped tournaments. The weird thing is that the files weren't even .szs files, just .exe files.
4TLPati 1.52 pm, February 12th 2013

THIS SITE GLITCHES

For my character kart wii, it has 2 downloads. however, there is only 1 download PLACE for 1 LINK. The second one doesn't show AT ALL. Even when I put it in the same box, The names glitch. and since 1 is 4shared, unclickable text saying "[4shared.com]" appears and unless I remove the link WILL NOT LEAVE PERIOD!!!!!!! Seriously...?

can ANYONE help me? *I just got the szs modifier.* 11:16, 29 October 2012 (UTC)

Almost no one used the second link for mirrors, so I removed it from the misc info template. Because of that nothing displays in the Download 2 field. Instead post your mirror elsewhere in the article. ALSO POSTING IN CAPS AND USING EXCESSIVE PUNCTUATION MAKES IT LOOK LIKE YOU'RE SHOUTING!!!!!!! DON'T DO IT!!!!! SERIOUSLY!!!!!!!--Jefe 22:54, 28 November 2012 (UTC)

Tutorial Page Help..

Can someone help me Make a page on the tutorials section? what do i do? do i create a new page like it if were a new character hack? I want to make a tutorial on how to model hack the Vehicles of mario kart wii characters it is very simple.. --Unsigned post by Mikeypr98

Make a new page and add your tutorial to it. If needed, others can add info and fix it up if it's not up to standards, but at least the tutorial will be there. --Digital Monster, Guilmon35249vr 17:03, 6 February 2013 (UTC)

Blacklist

I plan to install this: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:TitleBlacklist
Discussion needed? Alternatives?
Wiimm (talk) 10:33, 25 April 2013 (UTC)
It is not a bad idea, but what pagenames do you think of? Spampages have random pagenames, mosttimes userpages of bots. Installing won't be a problem but I doubt about the usefullness.
kHacker35000vr (talk) 10:57, 25 April 2013 (UTC)
It's a regex list and If I see back, candidates are: ".*\.php", ".*penis.*"
On the other hand, you are right.
Wiimm (talk) 15:18, 25 April 2013 (UTC)

THP tutorial

can anyone make one of these? i want to learn how to make a thp.Soarin MKWII (talk) 01:55, 26 April 2013 (UTC)

DarkyBenji's Pages

Why some people are removed my table from a lot of darkybenji pages? In the table you can see a lot of information! Darky always put some information in the description of his video maybe this:

Track edited : Toad factory

Texture from : Super mario galaxy 2

Music : Super mario galaxy 2 - Fleet Glide galaxy

Download : http://darky.gallery.xooit.fr/t945-Fl...

So it was good, because the people are see why he had this idea for the track Maybe Fleet Glide Galaxy (Toad's Factory Texture) He had the idea from super mario galaxy 2 and the Super mario galaxy 2 - Fleet Glide galaxy-Music is perfect for the track! --Horsti12 (talk) 09:22, 23 June 2013 (UTC)

It's no problem that you put all Darky's texture hacks here, but that's all he does, creating texture hacks. All extra information you add has nothing to do with the texture hacks itself.
kHacker35000vr (talk) 09:42, 23 June 2013 (UTC)
You can just put "This is a texture hack based on ______." Not a table because people roll their eyes when they see "Texture from: DarkyBenji Imagination".
And most Texture hacks are made up, so if it isn't based on anything don't put "DarkyBenji Imagination".
--FunkyDude15 (talk) 14:23, 23 June 2013 (UTC)
I posted a reply to your post on my user talk page, but I made that without checking to see if a BRSTM was actually included with these texture hacks -- on the ones I just checked they weren't. If there is no music file included, then why mention music at all? You seem to be just copying the music credits from the youtube videos. That is beyond pointless. As I said before, if you add to a page, it should be a description of the track or information about its development. It should be written coherently, and conform to the style used on this wiki. If your posts do not follow those guidelines -- and your posts didn't -- they will be removed. If you continue adding these nonsense tables to pages, it will lead to a ban.--Jefe (talk) 01:47, 24 June 2013 (UTC)

Redistributing wiki pages?

Can I copy wiki pages onto my own website and give a link to the specific revision of the page? --jimbo1qaz (talk) 19:45, 28 July 2013 (UTC)

Like as a citation? The main reason that we ask people who make YouTube videos to link to the wiki is so people download the most current version of the track; linking to a specific revision defeats this purpose. The real question is why you would want to host copies of wiki pages on your site. --Jefe (talk) 20:33, 28 July 2013 (UTC)

'user:name' contra 'name' (and the redirections)

I plan to create some pages to prainse some gurus of the scene (Chadderz, MrBean, Wiimm, BigOt2 for example). So I need the page 'Chadders' separated from 'user:chadders'. And I think, there is a logical difference about both paghes.

  • 'user:Name' is a self description of a the wiki user 'Name'.
  • 'Name' is an encyclopedia page about the scene person 'Name' written in third person.

I think, it is generally a failure to redirect 'Name' to 'user:Name'

Hanno (talk) 21:09, 28 August 2013 (UTC)

I don't really see the point. The Name pages were created for easy access to the User pages (unless they don't have an account here), and nearly everyone creates User pages. Some are really short, but maybe they already put up all the information they want to.
-- Have a nice day, from ZillaSpaz 00:06, 29 August 2013 (UTC)
I don't think this would be particularly useful either. It is up to these users how much information they wish to list about themselves. Anything we add needs to be objective, such as a listing of their works on their user link template. If they don't have one, or if it isn't up to date, other wiki users normally will update the template.
That's really the extent of factual data we should be adding for these users, aside from maybe a link to the user's home page, MKWii forum profile, or youtube, if they have one. Pretty much anything else you would want to say about them would be subjective (therefore not belonging on the wiki), redundant (if it also appears in the user link template), or worse, a potential invasion of the user's privacy. --Jefe (talk) 12:36, 29 August 2013 (UTC)
Why not creating a page "History" or "Milestones" with important dates and events? -- Wiimm (talk) 09:52, 31 August 2013 (UTC)
Ok. Now I think about a new page "History of Custom Track Creation", perhaps with redirects from "History" and "Milestones". And there we try to collect milestones of ct creation. I think about a mix of software, epic tracks, knowledge.
Hanno (talk) 12:14, 31 August 2013 (UTC)

News and non working tracks

How should we handle non working tracks (black screen only)?
I ask, because Hanno removed Lava Rampage and Torran inserted the news again. In my opinion the news are generally only for working tracks/chars/fonts/etc in beta quality or above.
Wiimm (talk) 18:59, 2 September 2013 (UTC)
Non working tracks should be removed from the News in my opinion. That being said, it seems I accidentally re-added Lava Rampage during that edit. Whoops! :p --Torran (talk) 04:02, 3 September 2013 (UTC)

mkwjason

Hmmm [1] --From FunkyDude (talk) 21:48, 12 September 2013 (UTC)

Why is this posted here on the Main Page talk? Does he want all his content removed from the Wiiki or something along these lines?
-- Have a nice day, from ZillaSpaz 01:50, 13 September 2013 (UTC)
What is this supposed to be? --Jefe (talk) 01:58, 13 September 2013 (UTC)
I think it may be because of "Sunshine Way" rather than "Sunshineway". If he really quit because of that then that would be a stupid move.... And it's on the main page talk because I couldn't think of anywhere else to put it. I thought people may be interested. And I don't think he wants his content removed. That's his choice. --From FunkyDude (talk) 02:13, 13 September 2013 (UTC)
That is really silly. Compound constructions of 3 or more words are grammatically correct in German, but they are not correct in English. Different languages, different rules. He just doesn't understand English well enough to understand that writing it "Sunshineway" looks really foolish to native speakers, the sort of mistake a small child would make. All we have done here is make the title grammatically correct, I hope he understands that. --Jefe (talk) 03:04, 13 September 2013 (UTC)

Side Bar

I have changed the side bar a little bit. I want to insert the central pages of this Wiiki into the first box. And I'm not sure about the order of the boxes. So please tell me:

  • What are the central pages of this Wiiki?
  • Do we need more/less boxes?
  • Which box order do you prefer?
  • What about the texts? (The headlines are set as lower case letters automatically (in some styles?))

Wiimm (talk) 16:33, 16 September 2013 (UTC)

@Wiimm, is there anyway implement a feature that allows users to view the last time a person was online? And I personally think that you should remove the MKDS Wiki hyperlink. Shadow (talk) 19:39, 20 September 2013 (UTC)
I think the MKDS link should stay.
-- Have a nice day, from ZillaSpaz 19:47, 20 September 2013 (UTC)

New Page Ideas

I had some ideas for new pages on the wiki:

List of Retro Custom Track Distribution like the List of Retro Characters/Vehicles site and a Menu page were everyone can put there own menu textures. What do you think? --Horsti12 (talk) 18:41, 23 October 2013 (UTC)

I like this idea, but it seems very difficult/impossible to do... Shadow (talk) 19:16, 23 October 2013 (UTC)
No.
-- Have a nice day, from ZillaSpaz 19:27, 23 October 2013 (UTC)

New Rules?

I think the Wiiki should make a new Rule which is like this "The CT Creator can edit his own page as muc has he wants and can put his video on it. It doesnt matter qhich quality it is, but when thers a video with a better quality they can put it under the owner's video, and the owner can decide rather he wants the video or not" ---FloMaster35000vr (talk) 20:40, 3 November 2013 (UTC)

I disagree. This wiki is like almost all other wikis: It is an encyclopaedia, but with a special theme (MKWii custom) ⇒ Each article should give the best information. And this includes best videos and realistic videos (dolphin is only a software, which emulates something similar like a Wii).
A track author will not become the owner of the article, because he writes the first steps of it. The community is the owner!
However, a track author has generally more right for a article about its product (not only tracks), but there is no reason against replacing videos/pictures/words by better videos/pictures/words to improve the article quality.
Wiimm (talk) 21:53, 3 November 2013 (UTC)
Sorry , but I tend to agree (Typos aside). Not sure how often/when something like the case with Magnetic City has occurred, but the track owner should have 'ownership', and should be able to chose video he/she likes for their page. Clearly ‎XBlue98 did not want Torran's video on their page, and that decision should be respected, quality aside (To a certain degree). I believe it went too far with this comment by Torran: " Unfortunately, the creator cannot determine which videos can be on his/her page. ". I see it as an utterly useless restriction and in the least appears to have been put in place in favor of Torran's YouTube account. Knowing Torran, I can clearly see that this is not the case, but not everyone will see it that way. Rule #8 in video etiquette doesn't make much sense either. While Dolphin may not display smaller details such as Mipmaps (In addition to omitting visual errors, which a secondary video may cite), sometimes it's simply the best quality a track creator can provide. Look at it from this point too: They don't want to advertise somebody else's YouTube necessarily. And with that, maybe they want their friend's video up instead of yours ('You' meaning anybody). In the end, the track creator should be granted jurisdiction over the content on their page, if they want to advertise their track with a video filmed on a digital camera at 5 FPS, then let them do so. What's stopping Moderators from later on deciding you're no longer allowed to use the word 'unique' on a track page, because a moderator disagrees and says it's vaguely similar to another? If it is truly coming to a point where we cannot decide what goes on our pages, then I'll quit. --SuperMario64DS (talk) 22:02, 3 November 2013 (UTC)
Restrictions on Dolphin should be obvious enough. Graphical effects, game freezing, and slowdown effect are not reproduced by Dolphin. Therefore it is not an accurate method of recording videos. The strictness of the rule has been lessened so that it won't apply for single videos, but I believe that the restriction should stay. As for "page ownership", I'm willing to respect the creator of the page, to a certain extent. Removing videos from a page because: a) You wish to hold a monopoly on the page, b) You wish to gain suscribers, views, or ad revenue from the page, are not acceptable reasons. The Wiiki and its contents exist for the community, not for the individual. --Torran (talk) 22:20, 3 November 2013 (UTC)

Here's my take on it. I think there is a place for the author's chosen video in most cases. The author of the track sometimes has certain ways they wish to present their level, show off certain things they did, like new objects, nice camera work, etc. Track pages are allowed a maximum of three embedded videos, and as long the author's video shows a unique game mode, version or perspective, it should be listed as one of the three videos. If the author's video doesn't show anything unique, or violates the other guidelines, or is just very poor quality, other videos should have priority. In that case, the author should be allowed to add a different one that fits within the guidelines.

Also, I strongly disagree with the new rule that says videos must not be emulated. While I agree that a video capture from an actual Wii or Wii U is preferable, it is just barely so. Emulated videos are often higher quality than video captures and rendering errors are usually pretty minor.

I think we should consider videos in this order:

  • Shows a unique version or mode (online play, vs bots, split screen w/bots, and replay cameras are all good, time trials are not.)
  • Does not contain distracting or offensive intros, audio, mods or hacks. "Vanilla" MKWii with game audio is better to show of the features of the level/character/etc. but not essential.
  • Shows at least a full lap, round or all relevant features.
  • Is at least decent quality (360p).
  • Is direct video capture, not emulation or a video of a tv or a monitor.

If there is only one or two videos listed, there is room for both an emulated and non-emulated video. --Jefe (talk) 08:20, 4 November 2013 (UTC)

I strongly disagree with your take on emulation. The fact that some creators only test their tracks on Dolphin, find nothing wrong and release it, only for it to not work on a real Wii, strongly suggests to me that this privilege is not worth having. Not to mention that it effectively allows the creator of the video to hide any of the more pressing issues of tracks such as freezes and slowdowns, videos are meant to demonstrate the track, as well as demonstrate any flaws that it may have. In that regard, I have no other issues with what you have proposed. --Torran (talk) 12:12, 4 November 2013 (UTC)
You have a valid point about bugs and slowdown, I didn't consider those in my post. Track creators should always test their tracks on a real Wii, whether or not they have the means to record video that way. In those cases it is a good reason for someone else to post a Wii video and append a bug report to the page. Most bugs of that nature are quickly discovered by the community, and someone typically posts a bug video or a notice that the track does not work on a real system. So taking this into account I'd change the guidelines to this:
  1. No more than 3 embedded videos on any page. Tutorials and Distributions are exceptions.
  2. Custom Track Videos should show Online Play, VS or Grand Prix mode. Do not use Time Trials mode, as it does not show item boxes or buggy item or CPU routes.
  3. Videos should shows at least one full lap, round or all relevant features.
  4. Videos should be of at least decent quality (360p). Direct video capture from a Wii is preferred, especially for the primary video.
  5. Primary video should not hide major flaws, including issues on real Wii systems.
  6. Secondary videos should show a different play mode or an older major revision of the level.
  7. Videos should not contain distracting or offensive intros, text or audio, or excessive modifications or hacks. "Vanilla" MKWii with game audio is better to show demonstrate the features of the level/character/etc. but not essential.
  8. Ports and remakes can include a video of the original version of the level. Videos of subsequent ports to other games can be included as well.
  9. The video title must not praise the author of the video. (Video by VideoGloryGuy) Instead the title must describe briefly what will be shown in the video. (V1 or V1: Replay Cameras etc.)
  • For special videos, use one of the following keywords:
    • bug for bugs and glitches.
    • tutorial for tutorials.
    • original for videos of the original versions of ported and remade tracks.
  1. Embedded videos should link to the track's Wiiki page instead of a direct download to the file. This is to ensure that people downloading the track will get the most current version of the track instead of an old version.
These are guidelines, remember, not hard-and-fast rules. Even in the scenarios you described, the emulated video by the author should be bumped down to the second or third slot if available, not necessarily removed. --Jefe (talk) 14:27, 4 November 2013 (UTC)
The rule against the emulated videos was made due to the amount of people hiding the "Harry Potter effect" with Dolphin. Dolphin also can hide/create mistakes in the Shader part of the MDL0 and in the worst case scenario the track can freeze on the Wii but not on Dolphin (Baoulettes even managed to make a Track freeze in Dolphin but not on the Wii). A temporary Dolphin Video is allowed but this rule was also made to "force" people to test their Tracks on a regular Wii before they release it.
Of course I agree that Torran "overreacted" about the 25 fps Video. 25/29,97/30 fps, 4:3/16:9 and 360p/480p/HD is totally fine.
Tock (talk) 16:07, 4 November 2013 (UTC)
Actually, I overreacted on the potato video. :p SkyGrdnLoL was the 25 fps video, and I actually didn't find out that Crile = Demonizer until after I replaced the video. --Torran (talk) 16:11, 4 November 2013 (UTC)
My proposed revisions to the guidelines cover people hiding the "Harrry Potter Effect" and shader issues too. You can't force people to test on a Wii, any more than you can force people to not make MSPaint or TWD98 tribute tracks. ;) --Jefe (talk) 16:36, 4 November 2013 (UTC)
I like Jefes rule list, but would add: Dolphin videos are generally allowed, but only if a similar video made on a real Wii will show the same. If a Dolphin video hide bugs, freezes or other things, it can be deleted by the moderators without comment.
Wiimm (talk) 16:47, 4 November 2013 (UTC)
Wow, i'm surprised, that my suggestion for the rule caused such a conversation :o But i want to give my part too so... Maybe if the Creator made a bad Quality Video of his CT/Texture Hack and put it on the Wiiki Page you should may ask him on the Talk page if you can add his Video which maybe shows another Game Mode or replace the existing Video, because your Video has the better Quality. FloMaster35000vr (talk) 17:28, 4 November 2013 (UTC)
On a public wiki, there is no reason to ask anyone for permission to improve the page quality of s public page. -- Wiimm (talk) 06:41, 5 November 2013 (UTC)
I understand all positions. The most important argument is: This a public Wiki and no one gains the ownership of an article.
This main rule and the ideology to create very good pages implies, that ...
  • ... no one must ask the creator for permission.
  • ... dolphin videos are allowed but can replaced by other ones.
  • ... dolphin videos, that disguise negative aspects of the track, must rapidly replaced by better videos.
And so, Jefes list is more an explanation what free wiki and good pages mean.
Hanno (talk) 11:52, 5 November 2013 (UTC)
@Hanno: To clarify: We should respect the author's choice of video as long as it doesn't go against the other guidelines. Otherwise, that is a good summation.
@Wiimm: Your addition states it more explicitly. We should be able to rephrase the policy so it is more concise. --Jefe (talk) 20:00, 5 November 2013 (UTC)
It's now a job for native speakers to edit the rule and the policy pages. -- Wiimm (talk) 21:34, 5 November 2013 (UTC)
That makes sense. My proposed revision is here: Sandbox 2. --Jefe (talk) 21:57, 5 November 2013 (UTC)
My thumps up for Sandbox 2 -- Wiimm (talk) 22:39, 5 November 2013 (UTC)
I'm alright with these guidelines as well. --Torran (talk) 05:12, 6 November 2013 (UTC)

Nebula Lava Factory being blanked

This started with TheMygoshi, then Kemzy, then Zoraa. Could TheMygoshi be using multiple accounts? --From FunkyDude (talk) 14:20, 24 November 2013 (UTC)

New template(s) for conditional table lines

I'll point you to a new template: Template:tab-line-H1 and its usage in Template:Custom-Track-Info ('date' entry).

It's only an example to show a new and easy method to hide table lines without content. If needed, other templates like tab-line-H2 or without header column tab-line-2 can be created. Now let us discuss and/or modify the other info templates.

Wiimm (talk) 15:59, 6 December 2013 (UTC)

Votes

On mwkwii.com I have read, that there were bad votes made by trolls. After a check I can confirm, that there were many worst votes from users, that are not logged in. Because of that, I have removed all votes of such anonym users. For the future I plan to edit the voting script to allow only votes made by logged-in users. At the moment it's easier to clean the db frequently.

Wiimm (talk) 13:02, 8 December 2013 (UTC)

Some more infos for clearness:
I have analysed the votes for some pages. And I have seen, that different tracks have either many "1" votes or many "10" votes made by not logged-in users. Both are bad. So I decided to remove anonymous votes.
KHacker35000vr wrote as comment: "You can say a lot about me removing that voting box, but now the anonymous users are gone the trollers have an even bigger percentage."
Because of this I use this as example: I have analysed the votes for Molten Mountainway.
  • 37 persons voted, 26 were anonymous votes.
  • Only counting the "10" votes: 17 total, 14 anonymous.
  • Logged-in users voted: 5*1, 3*7, 3*10 (5.1 average)
  • Anonymous users voted: 3*1, 1*2, 2*5, 5*8, 1*9, 14*10 (7.8 average)
  • Both groups: 8*1, 1*2, 2*5, 3*7, 5*8, 1*9, 17*10 (7.2 average)
Obviously the rating was pushed by anonymous votes.
After a fast review of the vote database I have seen, that anonymous users manipulate the ratings in both directions. And so I have made a second statistic, an analysis of all votes:
  • Logged-in users voted 4271 total — 30% "1" and 36% "10" (66% extreme values)
  • Anonymous users voted 21930 total — 17% "1" and 45% "10" (61% extreme values)
The high percent for the extreme votes shows 2 things:
  • Overall the voting system is only used in an abused way. Normally, extreme values are rarely.
  • Anonymous voting is generally used to push the rating upwards.
And this analysis confirm my feeling, that the voting system is only a battle field and will not give a fair rating for interested people.
However, personally I dislike this kinds of voting. And so I never vote and never watch the ratings — it's total irrelevant for me. So the goal was not to increase or decrease any rating. My goal is that the ratings reflect the reality in a better way.
Wiimm (talk) 12:20, 9 December 2013 (UTC)
Another problem of the votes is, that updates may improve a track significant. When this happens, the votes should be reset. At the moment we have a mixed evaluation of the old an new track versions.
Wiimm (talk) 12:37, 9 December 2013 (UTC)
There is a voting glitch.
Anyone can vote one time in one track,but if he/she vote again in the track in other day,the vote will be counted and becoming an infinite voting glitch.
I´m warning because I know this may help you to avoid those kind of votes in the wiki.
Rukasudo90 22:40 10 December 2013 (GMT)
Do you mean as logged-in user or as anonymous? If second, see below.
If first: You can vote gain, but you override only you last vote. If not, give me an example and I check the database.
Wiimm (talk) 22:06, 19 December 2013 (UTC)
I prefer to remove the voting section on my pages. I feel that if people would like to give criticism or thumbs or down, they should do so on the talk page of the course.
I think, that if not already, it should be only for registered members, that they can actually vote. --Shadow (talk) 20:56, 19 December 2013 (UTC)
At the moment anonymous votes are possible, but they are cleared once a day.
Wiimm (talk) 22:06, 19 December 2013 (UTC)
Let me explain what you asked me,Logged users can vote only one time and they can't vote again in the same track. The unlogged ones can vote in the track and if they vote in the same track in other day,the vote may valid and count..
(Note:if the person has more the 1 computer,he/she will be able to vote more than 1 time per day.
Ex:3 computers=3 votes in the same track per day.)
Rukasudo90 11:50, 04 January 2014 (GMT)
Again: Anonymous (= not logged in) votes are cleared/removed once a day. -- Wiimm (talk) 14:00, 4 January 2014 (UTC)
At this moment we have 4513 votes of registered users and 9 of anonymous users. The anonymous users vote 7 times a "10".
Wiimm (talk) 14:16, 4 January 2014 (UTC)

4Shared and copyright claims

I'm downloading a list of CTs for my distro, and i saw that SuperDaisy55 and khacker35000vr are banned for copyright claims. What's happening to 4Shared ? Anyone is already banned from it? --Dswii3ds (talk) 14:24, 29 December 2013 (UTC)

4Shared got hit by it too? I was hoping it was only Mediafire. --Ultimate Chimera (Guil) 20:05, 4 January 2014 (UTC)
I've noticed that a lot of people upload native Wii formats. I don't know what sort of algorithms or search methods they use for files, but I think it would be smart to obfuscate these files a bit instead of uploading files with names like castle_course.szs. Use less obvious file names, and use an archive format like rar or 7z. --Jefe (talk) 13:27, 6 January 2014 (UTC)

List of Blacklisted IPs

Hello! My name is Jackie, and I've come here seeking a favor. I've recently started my own Wiki (No worries - Not related to this place at all), and I'd like to know if the admin would /possibly/ be willing to share the list of banned Spam bots? I've followed this Wiki quite a bit the past few years (Attempted custom content myself - Ala Daisy Cruiser), and I recall around it's creation, and through the course of it's existence, Spam bots have come and gone, eventually disappearing all together. If I recall correctly, 'Wiimm' at one point found a list of IPs to watch for, and mass banned them as a form of prevention. I'd like to do the same, as seeing that you have a list ready, would you be willing to share that with me? Thank-you!--Jackie (talk) 20:09, 15 January 2014 (UTC)

Look this up: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:ConfirmEdit we use QuestyCaptcha for the registration process which has proven to be very affective. Of course you should also disable not logged in users to edit your wiki. Requiring people to confirm their email addresses also is a great way to add more security. Two month ago we had a Spam problem again because the learned the answers of the questions (after around one year) so Wiimm changed the questions.
Tock (talk) 23:40, 15 January 2014 (UTC)

1 Million Views

I understand not I'm presently active here - However, I've noticed the Main page has recently exceeded 1 Million views. I recall a news entry being made for when the Wiki surpassed 1,00 pages, should the same be done in this case? Certainly note worthy, quite a milestone. --SuperMario64DS (talk) 03:20, 4 March 2014 (UTC)

Yah, okay okay.--Jefe (talk) 20:59, 8 March 2014 (UTC)

Misspelling

The text "Wiki" on the section of the Main Page is misspelled "Wikki". --Tag365 (talk) 19:54, 18 March 2014 (UTC)

"Wiiki" is a combination with "Wiki" and "Wii" --Horsti12™ THE Clouddealer (talk) 20:14, 18 March 2014 (UTC)

Pipeline Skyway

v1 is on News 2014 but not on Template:main-news. --Emergamer02 (talk) 12:50, 9 April 2014 (UTC)

Fixed by kHacker's bot. --Emergamer02 (talk) 21:59, 9 April 2014 (UTC)

List of Mario Kart 8 Retro Tracks

Can a moderator add the List of Retro Tracks from Mario Kart 8 section to the Track Directory Template on the Main Page? --Quajeek99 (talk) 00:10, 7 May 2014 (UTC)

Done --kHacker35000vr (talk) 10:01, 7 May 2014 (UTC)
Isn't that suppose to go after Arcade DX Custom Tracks, assuming the pages are going in chronological order? --Michael (talk) 09:12, 8 May 2014 (UTC)
Yes it is, I didn't even know that there was a new arcade game released last year. It's fixed now. --kHacker35000vr (talk) 14:23, 8 May 2014 (UTC)

Odd...

  • (User creation log); 16:55 . . User account LukasLoucks (Talk | contribs) was created ‎
  • (User creation log); 16:50 . . User account Mkdasher (Talk | contribs) was created ‎
  • (User creation log); 12:29 . . User account Justin*** (Talk | contribs) was created ‎
  • (User creation log); 09:31 . . User account Raft5violet (Talk | contribs) was created ‎
  • (User creation log); 09:29 . . User account Frostwhorl4 (Talk | contribs) was created ‎

It's odd how these five users all registered at similar times.

Suigetsu, the transformation (talk) 19:33, 19 May 2014 (UTC)

Yea, I was thinking the same thing. Most likely someone spamming. --Quajeek99 (talk) 22:44, 19 May 2014 (UTC)
Two of those users should look familiar to anyone who's been in the Mario Kart Wii community long enough. None of those accounts are spam. --Torran (talk) 22:56, 19 May 2014 (UTC)
Sure, but it just seemed weird that the accounts were made in such a short time period. --Quajeek99 (talk) 23:51, 19 May 2014 (UTC)
MKDasher's taken, also Justin*** seems not appropriate, maybe unacceptable...? --Michael (talk) 00:47, 20 May 2014 (UTC)
I just talked to LukasLoucks and he confirmed that the account of the same name was made by him and the 2nd MKDasher account was made by MKDasher himself. The other three were not made by either.
--Have a nice day, from ZillaSpaz 21:06, 21 May 2014 (UTC)

Original Custom Track Sub-sections

I don't know where to post this, so I decided to put this in a place where mods would look.

I think that the Custom Track page should have different tables which define the type of track environment it has. For example, you will have a list of city tracks, jungle tracks, mountain tracks, raceway tracks, etc. It would be much more organized and it would be easier to find tracks this way. Is it okay if I do that? --Quajeek99 (talk) 18:28, 25 May 2014 (UTC)

Why limit tracks to generic types and categorize them? I see no reason to do this. --Torran (talk) 19:03, 25 May 2014 (UTC)

Custom Track Music File Details

Perhaps with the Custom Track details listed on each track's page, why not have a section that lists what music file it uses, and have a page that shows tracks that use a certain music file to make music editing a bit easier for people? --Supershadow64ds (talk) 03:56, 5 June 2014 (UTC)

This information would normally fall under the Download section, however most CT creators will decide to bundle their brstm's with their CT's in a zip archive, which is an awful idea really. Having this section be mandatory across all pages is probably unnecessary. --Torran (talk) 04:01, 5 June 2014 (UTC)


Battle Arena Custom Tracks

Hello,I created a new category named Battle Arena Custom Tracks.I hope someone can add it to the main page.The concept of the new category is that everybody can transformate a Battle Track into a Custom Track.Tomorrow I'll release a video with the DS Twilight House. --Mkwjason (talk) 15:02, 14 June 2014 (UTC)

Front Page Custom AND Texture Distributions?

Before you say that my distribution should not receive any special attention, allow me to explain myself. My MKW Hack Pack distribution, which is to be released sometime in 2015, will be the ONLY distribution (that I know of, feel free to contest that) that will feature both Custom Tracks and Texture Hacked Tracks in them. However, if I'm wrong and mine isn't the only one out there, I still feel that this will benefit those who's distributions fall under this category. Also, I haven't created the section yet, because the nature of this request is something brand new, never done before. So I shall wait for your consent or disapproval. ~Thank you for your consideration Huili (talk) 17:24, 3 July 2014 (UTC)

Unsigned comment template

Would this work?

--''Unsigned comment by [[User:{{{1}}}|{{{1}}}]] ([[User talk:{{{1}}}|talk]]).''

--CT creator Emer, (talk here) 11:20, 7 July 2014 (UTC)

I've updated your template so it is easier to write, just put {{Sig|Name}} after unsigned comments. --Jefe (talk) 02:42, 8 July 2014 (UTC)
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