I believe I am well within my rights to post that I did not give him permission to release his version. I had hoped that he would work with me to release a track we would both be happy with and explained my objections to him.
While the wiki policy may have changed since I was moderator here,I believe track editors should do their best to respect the wishes of the original creators of tracks, especially if they change the original work to a great degree, as Joris did with his version. --Jefe (talk) 04:59, 27 August 2018 (UTC)
- I agree, but here are Wiimm's words:
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- We have to distinguish 2 things: Netiquette and Info-System using a Wiki. At the beginning of the Wiiki, the rules split into these 2 parts to reflect it.
- Netiquette/Etiquette
- The rules of this kind describes, how the people of the community with interact. This can't be hard rules, because everyone have the freedom to to it in another way. Another way is, that no one can claim any rights of a remade track of Nintendo. THis is different for real custom tracks.
- In general I like the rules of Tock above for asking and waiting.
- Info-System (Wiki)
- The general intention of a Wiki is, that everyone can edit every page to update information. And in my opinion, the CT-Wiiki must follow this intention. So no one is the owner of a page, but in the special case of our wikis, I'll like to give authors of tracks, fonrs, software,... additional rights. And as result of this, all updates has a right to be noticed in our wiki, even if not following our Netiquette.
- Unofficial Updates
- The differentiation between official and unofficial updates is ok. The workflow is essential
- (A) An updater adds his update to history and info box. The the author(s) have a chance, to downgrade the update as unofficial.
- (B) An updater adds his update only to the history. The the author(s) have a chance, to mark the update as official later.
- I prefer clearly variant (A) for different reasons:
- There are many authors, that are not interested into their tracks any longer. So step 2 of (B) will never happen the the list of unofficial updates becomes longer and longer.
- With (B), the moderation part of the Wiikis grows, because the mods have to manage old unofficial updated (raise them to official) and to edit not allowed official updates).
- The moderator don't know, if a updates is allowed by the authors.
- (A) has no real disadvantage against (B), except some hours/days the unofficial update has the unwanted status of official.
- TL;DR, once you publish something on the Wiiki, it's already for public use and everyone can freely use/modify it. I disagree with this idea, but there's nothing I can do. I discussed this countless of times.
—Atlas (talk) – CT/MK8 Wiki Admin 11:46, 27 August 2018 (UTC)