User talk:Jefe

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Short notice because comment forgotten (revert used instead undo): The tool does it, but the tools do it -- Wiimm 16:29, 14 February 2013 (UTC)

I didn't really think about it when I made that edit, but "Wiimms SZS Tools does this" sounds correct because Wiimms SZS Tools is a program (singular), despite the name. Arguments can be made for saying it either way though. If the wording is changed to something like "Wiimms SZS Tools can be used to do this" that problem is avoided. --Jefe 16:57, 14 February 2013 (UTC)
There are 6 tools ... but I'm not a very good english speaker so I don't discuss language issues. Feel free to edit it again. -- Wiimm 17:07, 14 February 2013 (UTC)

Sorry about that Jefe. HerbertMcHoover 13:11, 3 March 2013 (UTC)

by the same author

What do you think about this: Template:User-Jopojelly-link?

I was on the way to remove the "this" link. But I think, if an author has only one single product, a "by the same author" is useless. In my opinion, I can delete this template.

Wiimm (talk) 14:49, 21 March 2013 (UTC)

Yes, I'd remove the "this" link. But I think it's good to for all authors to have a user template, even if they only have one thing on the wiki. It links back to their user page and can be updated with other information about the author. It will of course be already be in place for anything else they release on the CT Wiki.--Jefe (talk) 18:50, 21 March 2013 (UTC)

News???

so i added CTRP 4.3 to the news but it doesnt show i clicked save page and i used show preview :D i click all news 2013 and it shows up but not on the main page how can i fix this? -- unsigned comment by Soarin MKWII

That is normal, you'll have to wait untill a moderator confirms it or kHacker's bot adds it automatically. I also don't understand why you want to add CTGP 4.3, that has been released ages ago. -- NiAlBlack (talk) 08:29, 26 March 2013 (UTC)
I guess that CTGP 4.3 was a typo? I have updated the page, my bot is offline now due stupid windows update.
kHacker35000vr (talk) 13:38, 26 March 2013 (UTC)
I have no idea what "CTRP" is supposed to be. And why is its apparent first release 4.3? I would say it's just a typo for this guy's CT pack, but he keeps calling it "CTRP." --Jefe (talk) 14:47, 26 March 2013 (UTC)
CTRP stands for Custom Track Race pack. --FunkyDude15 (talk) 15:39, 26 March 2013 (UTC)

Visually review of tracks

Hi Jefe, my tools can create object files as export of the the KCL and some KMP sections. An visual review can help to find bugs and glitches. Now I plan to write a little tutorial/howto, but I'm not sure about the page name:

  • "Visually review of tracks"
  • "KMP Editing/Visually review"
  • "KMP object export"
  • Paragraph of KMP Editing
  • ?

What do you think? -- Wiimm (talk) 08:34, 27 March 2013 (UTC)

I'd go with KMP Editing/Visual Review, and insert a "Visual Review" section into the KMP Editing page.

Plural Redirects

Plural redirect are not needed, because you can always write [[Object]]s. I have replaced all "objects" links so the "objects" redirect is really waste. (See "What links here")

Wiimm (talk) 12:33, 28 March 2013 (UTC)

Redirects aren't only for wiki code. They're used as shortcuts and for searches. If you do a search using the term "Objects" the "Object" page is the 17th result. So a plural redirect for this term is not a waste if it makes it easier to find to desired result. Additionally it's quite likely the "Objects" url is linked to offsite on the forum and other places since the page has been around since 2011. --Jefe (talk) 12:38, 28 March 2013 (UTC)
Ok, I can follow your arguments for "objects", but not for the most other plurals. -- Wiimm (talk) 13:30, 28 March 2013 (UTC)
I think it's best practice to make page name singular when they're created. But for many terms, people are just as likely to search for the plural as they are for the singular. There really aren't any downsides to plural redirects for common terms. I just checked Wikipedia for comparison. Every plural term I tried redirected to either the singular version of the search term or a disambiguation page if there were multiple meanings. --Jefe (talk) 13:39, 28 March 2013 (UTC)

The GCN Waluigi Stadium Edit

Hi. I talked with Zilla about which name my model hacked GCN Waluigi Stadium could have and he said this:

[01.04.2013 22:57:15] Zilla: if you want, I can move it to "3DS Rainbow Road (April Fools)". it's too different to be a texture hack or CT with no model edits

and this

[01.04.2013 23:39:36] Zilla: so yeah tomorrow morning [01.04.2013 23:40:27] Zilla: I'll move it to "3DS Rainbow Road (April Fools Version)" and add it to the list of New Custom Tracks


I like the name "April Fool Version" more, too. Hmm, but Wiimm deleted the 'old' page before Zilla even could move/rename it. So, what are we going to name it now? --Buschkling (talk) 10:50, 2 April 2013 (UTC)

I thought, it was really only an april joke. And the download was only 247 bytes long and contains nothing but the text: "April Fools! This custom track was a joke." And April 1. is now gone.
Now I have restored the old pages -- Wiimm (talk) 10:57, 2 April 2013 (UTC)

Yes, I was going to put a download and Zilla was going to move the page this morning. Now we have 2 pages. Can you delete the new page April Fool's 3DS Rainbow Road (GCN Waluigi Stadium Edit)? I'll move the old pages to 3DS Rainbow Road (April Fools Version), is that ok?--Buschkling (talk) 11:00, 2 April 2013 (UTC)

deletion done -- Wiimm (talk) 11:04, 2 April 2013 (UTC)
ok thanks--Buschkling (talk) 11:05, 2 April 2013 (UTC)
It doesn't qualify as a Custom Track because it doesn't have a custom model. It can't be called a "GCN Waluigi Stadium Texture" because you removed the Piranha Plants, changing gameplay. It is considered a "Custom Tracks Without Model Edits." Those pages don't have a standard naming scheme at the moment, but I think the best solution is to add "<Original_Track_Name>_Edit" added to their page names to distinguish them from CTs and from Texture Hacks. That would cover include your track too. It can still be listed on the 3DS RR disambiguation page, and 3DS Rainbow Road (April Fools Version) can redirect to the actual page name.
Also, please see my notes on Candy Coaster. The slowdown problem should be fixed before it is included in CTGP. --Jefe (talk) 11:12, 2 April 2013 (UTC)

Ducks

Hey, could I use the ducks from Psyduck Cliffs for a track that I'm working on? --FunkyDude15 (talk) 03:38, 9 June 2013 (UTC)

The psyducks are ALPHAMARIOX's work, so you'll need to check with him. --Jefe (talk) 13:21, 9 June 2013 (UTC)

Darkybenji´s pages

Why you removed my tabele? There you can see where he had the idea like Super Mario Galaxy and which music are good for the track --Horsti12 (talk) 16:44, 12 June 2013 (UTC)

First of all, it was not Jefe it was Zilla. And when I looked at your tables I rolled my eyes. I'm sure thats what Zilla did. So don't put in useless tables.
--FunkyDude15 (talk) 01:24, 13 June 2013 (UTC)
I don´t unterstand why the table are not wrong, because it give yout the information maybe from Sonic Colours or Super Mario Galaxy
and you can see whic music are good for the track
--Horsti12 (talk) 05:21, 13 June 2013 (UTC)

All you did was add a pointless table with a link to a youtube video and say the track was from "DarkyBenji imagination." If you add to a page, it should be a description of the track or information about its development. It should be written coherently, and conform to the style used on this wiki. Your edit did none of those things, so it was correctly removed.

Also, there a number of reasons not to list music for tracks/texture hacks on the wiki. The primary reason is that we do not host BRSTM music files or collections. This is mostly due to copyright concerns, but also because BRSTMs are conversions of existing audio files, and rarely (if ever) the original composition of the wiki author. This wiki is dedicated to the creations of the community, not a music sharing site. While we don't forbid BRSTMs being included with a download, it shouldn't be the main feature of a track or the entirety of a writeup. Second, A lot of players, probably the vast majority, completely ignore the BRSTMs that come with tracks. Third, music is extremely subjective. What might sound awesome to one person will likely sound like cats being murdered with sledgehammers dubstep to another. If Benji or anyone else wants to list recommendations for their levels, they can certainly do it in the track's readme file or with a video. --Jefe (talk) 07:03, 13 June 2013 (UTC)


The Date on my Track

While my track was just posted on the wiki the other day, the first download link of this version was edited into my forum post on May 23rd 2013. So which date is the one I should be using?

--Segatendo (talk) 22:08, 1 July 2013 (PST)