Talk:MKW Hack Pack

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If there are any contributions that you want to make to the MKW Hack Pack or if you have any other feedback on this distribution please talk about it here. --Unsigned comment by Huili (talk).

Distrubtion

Some tracks are very good like on Wiimms Distrubtion. But many tracks are buggy and someone freeze the Wii. --Snake (talk) 13:55, 29 September 2014 (UTC)

Thank you for your input Snake, I appreciate it. Right now this Custom Track Distribution is in it's beta state, so I am doing a thorough investigation of every track just to see which ones stay and which ones go, while still sticking close to two priorities that I will try my best to stand by: Have no tracks from the current version of CTGP Revolution with the exception of texture edits of tracks from that distribution, and have 2 texture tracks per person. As for tracks that freeze/glitch/lag, or are buggy, I'm giving custom track creators time to improve on them so that they can have a chance to have their track featured in this distribution. I'm also waiting this out so that I can incorporate new custom tracks into this distribution, so the list you see right now isn't the final product. -- Huili (talk) 02:14, 30 September 2014 (UTC)
At first, thanks for your answer and the info. I understand your project. Well. I think the Authors from all the tracks in your distrubtion they not fix the buggy tracks, because many of them left the wiki some time ago. I have write long time ago a wishlist on my page. Maybe you have see it. But i notice, nothing of my wish are be in progress and finished. I have to give up the hope . But maybe in future there comes a suprise. I will see.
Good luck. --Snake (talk) 11:59, 30 September 2014 (UTC)

Question

I see Color Wonderland on the tracks list (61.1). I never released it, because it is not finished, so I was wondering why it is on the list. Is that a mistake or did you just 'reserve' that slot for when the track is done?--Buschkling (talk) 21:13, 9 October 2014 (UTC)

I realize that once I end this conversation, you might be very angry with me. But I found your track Here. I feel that after testing it, it was very worthy of adding to the distribution. Personally, I love the track, and if anyone digresses, they can find another distribution. Also, you may not like me for doing this, but as I type this, I'm already uploading the full beta version right now, and your track is on it. But if you're not convinced yet that what I'm doing right now is a good idea, let me give you some food for thought:
Eclipse Cove, granted, it isn't the track in question here, but the same concept is relevant, namely, that track, according to you, was/is not finished. But it was in your CT pack was it not? OK, I'll let it go at that for that track, but I have another reason for you to consider. Since I'm already uploading it, why not let some decide for themselves whether it's complete or not? I certainly felt it was. Also, I'm not going to cancel the upload unfortunately right now because of the size, and I'm leaving as well. so by the time I get back it will be fully uploaded. I really don't want to bother uploading it again. So if you REALLY want me to take the track out afterwards, please understand this: I probably won't reupload another one. Huili (talk) 10:45, 9 October 2014 (UTC)
The version of Color Wonderland you got there is an old, unfinished preview version. It does not work completely on VS race and there are still many bugs (as invisible walls, wrong respawns, item routes not complete) and texture errors. I don't even know why it is on that track archive. Also it sucks when people see the track in your pack, thinking it's done, then play it and get this glitchy old version of it. I didn't want people to play this track before it isn't finished. It would have been nice if you asked for permission first! You could clearly see that track was not finished, because of the bugs and as it said it's still in progress and bugs to be fixed on the wiki page. Eclipse Cove was something different - it was at least completely functional with some smaller bugs. So, please remove it. If you can't do it right now, please do when you update this pack or something.--Buschkling (talk) 07:36, 10 October 2014 (UTC)
Out of consideration, I have removed it from my regular download, nobody will be able to play it on that version. As regards the full beta version, at this point, I have decided to reupload the distribution without it. Although that may sound unreasonable to some, I'm going to do that. Sorry for any inconvenience this may have caused.Huili (talk) 14:58, 10 October 2014 (UTC)

Just a reminder: Custom content added to the Wiiki can be included in any Distribution unless specifically prohibited by the content's author. Failure to abide by this rule means the removal of said Distribution from the Wiiki. That is all. --Torran (talk) 14:20, 10 October 2014 (UTC)

Then it ain't worth having my distribution removed because of just one track. I will take action now.Huili (talk) 14:58, 10 October 2014 (UTC)

Stolen Website

It appears that the content of the "English" section of the pack's 'wiki' [1] is entirely copied from my site [2]. This is neither permitted in writing on my site, nor acknowledged on your site. Worse, you have removed our copyright notice and replaced it with your own. The text isn't even relevant for your pack. Care to explain?

Chadderz (talk) 19:18, 27 October 2014 (UTC)

I am the author of the Web site. I got the file to the person of the author of this site. I have created a web site of MKW Hack Pack by editing it
--AC (talk) 20:17, 27 October 2014 (UTC)
Please take down all these websites immediately. At the moment these look like the CTGP homepage, so search engines and people may be confused. Keep developing websites on PRIVATE servers.
I don't mind my work being used as a template if this is CLEARLY ACKNOWLEDGED. It's polite to ask first too.
Chadderz (talk) 21:06, 27 October 2014 (UTC)
Both parties have agreed in private chats to change the websites as soon as possible. They will change the content to remove references to CTGP-R to save confusion, and will acknowledge any borrowed content or code.
"[21:40:59] AC: Because I am busy now Can I change later? [21:41:13] Chadderz: OK, but do it soon [21:41:36] AC: ok"
"[21:13:26 | Edited 21:13:46] Horsti: sorry, it was actually planned that I finished the website weeks ago, but I didn't had time for that. but now I have autumm breaks so I can do it for sure"
When that is done, I will consider this matter resolved.
Chadderz (talk) 21:46, 27 October 2014 (UTC)

I just saw this now, and I deeply apologize Chadderz that this event took place, as I find myself at great fault. And yet at the same time it's akward, because I didn't exactly plan on doing a separate wiki for my distribution initially, and henceforth, I personally will only be using this wiki to promote the MKW Hack Pack, but AC asked me if I wanted to have a separate wiki for the MKW Hack Pack, so after a few attempts of talking to me I decided to essentially "give in" to AC's wants and I allowed him to make various wikis, including this wiki in question. However, I want you to know this, that the only wiki that I actually physically contributed to was This one, it is no longer online because AC deleted it. All the other ones I never physically had a hand in, including the one where he copied your information without consent. I take full responsibility for his actions, regardless of the circumstances involved.

Granted, it's rather ironic that I'm caught up in all this simply because it's my distribution and I gave AC full reign to administer the wiki as he pleases. So now I have to answer to you Chadderz because of something AC has done. Now I'm concerned, worried even, that this might jeopardize my distribution being here on this wiki. So now I find myself in a position, of all position, begging you, honestly, to cut me some slack in this regard. I put too much work into this to have things go awry so quickly and suddenly, almost makes me way to cry really. Again, don't get me wrong, I do take responsibility for him yes, but it's a little bit unfair to me you know I'm trying to say here I hope? Huili (talk) 03:47, 28 October 2014 (UTC)

It's alright, everyone makes mistakes. While I am annoyed that my website was taken without asking and the copyright was removed, the most worrying thing for me is that it currently says CTGP everywhere. Someone could very easily find that site and believe it to be our official website. There isn't even some big red text saying under construction. When I'm building a website, I always include a banner somewhere saying this is not the final, official website and that its contents should be ignored. Both sites are already in the Google index, which means Google is free to show it in search results. Neither you nor I have control over who places first in search results related to CTGP, so we just have to hope it's the right one.
I am happy for my website to be used as a template for ideas, but it would be polite to ask first, or at the very least to acknowledge this somewhere. A small portion of my web design was done by a friend who is a professional web developer. He may not be happy for you to take his work without paying. This mainly relates to the CSS code which has been copied then modified, or at least copied in part.
Chadderz (talk) 05:35, 28 October 2014 (UTC)