Talk:GCN Bowser's Castle (Baoulettes)

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KMP

Help

Hi.
I have huge problem on KMP here the story:.
In Time trial it work fine (everything).
Without Podoboo (boble) it work every where.
Every cam just work like a charm.
But when i try to load VS mode with all cam that worked fine, and all item it simply don't load.
And it load fine in TT but when i want to go away from the map it simply freeze i can't restart change char / course or quit.
I would appreciate any help (it prevent me to release the map :x).
If need i can post the KMP as KMP/TXT.
ps: KMP only made with Wiimm tool KMP editor.
Baoulettes

I can help you. Send me the track. Use PN on mariokartwii.com
Wiimm 20:35, 2 October 2011 (CEST)
Private Message sended on mariokartwii.com, hope you can see what wrong on it :S
Baoulettes

No time to test now, but after a code view i think, that the distance between camera point and view point of all 3 opening cameras are to small (and for c1 it is zero)! Put the camera at least 5000 away from both view points. And I#m not sure, if the view points must have also a distance. 

#----------------------------------------------------------------------
#  idx  type  unknown  ________position   (x,y,z)________     zoom_beg
#       next  v(zoom)  ________unknown    (x,y,z)________     zoom_end
#     unknown v(v.pt)  ________view point (x,y,z)________         -
#      route  unknown  ________view dest  (x,y,z)________      sec/60
#----------------------------------------------------------------------
	# CAME reference: @OPENING-INDEX @SELECTION-INDEX
    c0     5       0     5616.000   15105.760    3733.951       45.000
 >        c1       5        0.000       0.000       0.000       60.000
 >         0     150     5616.000   15105.000    3733.000
 >        r1       0     5616.000   15400.000    3733.000      220.000
#----------------------------------------------------------------------
	# CAME reference: c0
    c1     5       0   -57472.840   12504.119   38014.484       10.000
 >        c2       5        0.000       0.000       0.000      150.000
 >         0     150   -57472.840   12604.119   38014.484
 >        r3       0   -57472.840   12204.119   38014.484      257.000
#----------------------------------------------------------------------
	# CAME reference: c1
    c2     5       0   -18507.998   14122.967   10654.000       45.000
 >        -1       5        0.000       0.000       0.000       60.000
 >         0     150   -18251.998   14022.967   11934.001
 >        r2       0   -18251.998   13922.967   11934.001      294.000
#----------------------------------------------------------------------

Wiimm 20:59, 2 October 2011 (CEST)

The openning pan cam worked fine, The problem should be on the podoboo cause that when they are there that freeze.
I mean I tried without and it load. It should be a ressource problem?
Anyway I will try your idea :3
Baoulettes
My first idea was the opening cam, because it is only used in vs. And then I saw the non logic values.
Maybe you are right, but the KMP seems mot to be full. But there are 25 routes and most of them are not linked.
Wiimm 21:19, 2 October 2011 (CEST)
Okay I did your idea still same effect
I delete all unused route , same result :3
Deleted from first podoboo to the end and still freeze
did all above but together and still same effect :X
I do not know where i fail :/
Baoulettes
The file you send me fails in time trial too. I've tested it in slots 7.2 and 7.3.
Wiimm 00:45, 3 October 2011 (CEST)
FlamePole_v and big cause it :X, that don't get right fils on szs if i remenber :x
Baoulettes

A test series

I have made a little test series. In all tests I have modified the opening cam as explained above. Then I have divided all global objects into 6 groups. The first group were all itemboxes and this group was enabled in all tests. With the other five groups I have made 5 testes, one group enabled and the other 4 disabled. And all works fine (tested with VS). This means, that all global objects work fine for itself, but not if all enabled. I think, there is a memory problem.

Then I have looked into the graphics and found this:

  • course_model/GCN_OutField is a large graphic (256*1024, 128KB) and have 9 clones with identical images. Is this needed?
  • course_model/GCN_Tower: Same size, 1 clone.
  • course_model/GCN_Anzen3: Smaller, 2 clones.

It seems, that there are large unneeded images.

Have you ever tested VS without compis, but with 2 players?

Wiimm 13:06, 3 October 2011 (CEST)

I did that huge amount of Group simply because it is needed to fix HP effect without the last one you would have old HP effect.
and as the map take "only" 21.000 ~ face and like 30 groups max it should work fine in 4VS with computers without lag as "Petite Park" have
more than 80 groups and 55.000~ Faces.
but yep the problem it is what you told the memory. but untill we don't have HP fix I can not make better Brres :S
I will simply remove some Taimatsu for exemple. or make as it was before Podoboo. mean no fireball at Lava room.
Baoulettes 2:07, 3 October 2011
Ok, I finish my tests here. Ask again if you need more help/tests.
BTW: The new track looks great!
Wiimm 14:29, 3 October 2011 (CEST)
Thanks a lot for your help now I know where the problems are :)
I will fix it as I can.
and Thanks to like the new look :).
Baoulettes 2:36, 3 October 2011

Results

So here my little results :3
Wiimm Had right !
I mean I deleted ALL Taimatsu, FlamePole_V/big and GCN_LightSystem Polygone and now it is loading Fine.
so untill we can't fix that hp effect in one polygone i will not add that GCN_LightSystem sorry :3
Thanks Wiimm You test was really helpfull! :3
(and btw I love your tool we can manage KMP so easier than before :))
Baoulettes

KCL

Help

Hi.
I really need help for pochaYogan here my analyse and result:

BC WII Fallboudary source:

0x10 V012 -> V00A -> V002 = Y 9198,609
0x10 V00A -> V002 = Y 7457
0x10 V022 - > V01A -> V012 -> V00A -> V002 = Y 7457
0x10 V01A -> V012 -> V00A -> V002 = Y 10132,72
0x10 V002 = Y 4813,282

Kmp:

FFFF0000 = V002 = Y 4813,282
FFFF0001 = V00A = Y 7457
FFFF0002 = V012 = Y 9198,609
FFFF0003 = V01A = Y 10132,72
FFFF0004 = V022 = Y 7457

so mine should :

0x10 V002 = Y 7048,078
0x10 V00A = Y 10558,08

KMP

FFFF0000 = V002 = Y 7048,078
FFFF0001 = V00A = Y 10558,08
0x10 V002 = V002 = Y 7048,078
0x10 V00A = V00A = Y 7048,078

What Wrong on my analyse? (it is cause it's doesn't work in-game. (Yes i have Right Y value >.>)
Thanks for Any kind of help only that is left for tell "FR2" as done and KCL Done.
user:Baoulettes 23/09/2011 04:45 am.

Me again.
Tried to make more than two pocha to get more chance to activate it.
FFFF0002 = 7048,079
FFFF0004 = 7048,079
FFFF0003 = 10558,08
FFFF0001 = 10558,08
FFFF0000 = 10558,08
so i will see maybe I will got luck trying value from 002 to 022 so That will be the same amount than BC WII and same hexa value maybe it's needed?
user:Baoulettes 23/09/2011 1:58 pm.
Yes so doing shity work it work !
here what work :
FFFF0002 = 7048,08 = not work
FFFF0004 = 7048,08 = working! = V022
FFFF0003 = 10558 = working! = V01A
FFFF0001 = 10558 = not work
FFFF0000 = 10558 = not work

Discution


Hey, Baoulettes! =)

I quit mkwii next week (i already quit skype) and i want to upload this track, (cause its the best ct) it would be a perfect completion for my channel :) and ur ct in 1080p would be "O_O" i know your ct is not done (no animated textures, hp effect, non-finished kcl), but you know i record with dolphin emulator (no hp effect) :) and the perfect kcl is not neccesary (cause i drive normal and dont fall, etc), and "bowser howl" etc. would make no difference (cause i dont record the original sound) It would look so amazing =) and the track would be popular like never before! (i think the vid would get 8000+ views)

Please, it would be the perfect completion and i could quit with a good feeling! ;)

yours sincerely, reedy94 (2011-09-02)

Yop
And seriously no
for sure I want you as a tester but not to record without animation ect.
I want a total suprise for the animation ect so.
If you could wait a litlle more and/or Test only then why not
I think Chadderz will release soon the update to make it possible :p

Baoulettes 02/09/2011
oh ok ):
could u give me the newest version? i want to test it :) (i will make no vid)
reedy94 (2011-09-02)

Then let me time to do it cause I have no brres made right now :x
Baoulettes 02/09/2011


oh ok o;

reedy95 (2011-09-02)

May you can come on Skype or anything Else so we can discute about GCN BC ? (and btw send you the SZS)
Baoulettes (02/09/2011)

we can discute here, too xD and as i said, i quit skype.. :/ you could send it via email =P
reedy95 (2011-09-02)

For that i will need you Mail .... lol
Baoulettes 02/09/2011

[email protected] :) reedy94 (2011-09-02)

Email Sent. Baoulettes 02/09/2011

thanks, Joffrey! :P (reedy94)

The model is perfect :) looks awesome oô

Oh, the last update before animation? o: i want to test it, could you send me it via email? c: (reedy94)

that so minor change that you will probably don't see it and i can't make brres right now sorry. (Baoulettes)

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